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  Stafford and Furuli

  by dunsscot in

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  i hear that stafford and furuli are coming out with new books.

  one will deal with the gentile times, and the other will discuss jws via three "dissertations.

  " i immensely look forward to these works.. .

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  Mommie Dark

  Oh dear, Greg Stafford... he's the guy who got caught posting congratulatory remarks to himself from a hotmail account to H2O, claiming 'Greg kicked butt' in some debate he had windbagged his way through... but he was too stupid to do it right, and his real name appeared on the post too...made himself look entirely foolish, and dropkicked what teenyweeny tad of credibility he may have once claimed RIGHT INTO THE OLD CRAPPER! After that bit of idiocy, nobody with any working brain cells would take the time to wade through his blahblahblah style of grandstanding. He got counseled for being at Waterworld debating, too, and did the fast obedient fade, the big capon...

  Yeah, we love Greggy, old Mr. Never-Use-One-Simple-Word-When-A-Thousand-Windy-Syllables-Might-Dazzle-The-R&F! (a trick his disciple Dunny seems to espouse, too, with equally hilarious effect.) Greggy is absolutely the VERY BEST thinker the Jdubbies can muster for their cause. And THAT fact, friends, is one Mommie finds SCREAMINGLY funny!

  ROFLMAOPMP at JW apologists who offer the pompous Greggy as an expert on anything but deceit and pomposity,
  Mommie Dark
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  "Crossing Over with John Edward" -- s...

  by reagan_oconnor in

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  i just saw this show on the scifi channel for the first time on monday night.

  how entertaining!

  if this guy is for real, i'm amazed.

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  Mommie Dark

  Absolutely true statement:

  When the dead speak, they speak to John Edward.

  I know another equally true statement:
  the dead have never spoken to John Edward.

  Sylvia Brown has, though, and she taught him how to make it appear to the gullible that they do. The pupil has outshone the master, though, as John is infinitely more personable and sincerely convincing than Sylvia.

  Try to schedule a private reading with John. He takes appointments one day per week (between the hours of something and something only), and he schedules a WHOLE YEAR in advance. That gives his team lots of time to find enough personal facts to wow the mark that is paying thousands of $$ for the reading. Or you can schedule a lovely tropical weekend getaway with John and his wife at their psychic island getaway retreat, learning to tap your OWN psychic power to chat with the dead, for a mere two or three times what your private reading would cost.

  BTW in cold readings on talk shows etc he does about 30% accuracy, or about what you or I could manage with some shrewd guessing.

  A lot of what John does is the same shtick that televangelist healers do, having production assistants with sub mics and earphones eavesdropping on audience members. Have you seen the movie "Leap of Faith" with Steve Martin? Some of the tricks can be seen there. It's old reliable seance medium hoodoo with a modern technotwist.

  Remember that the SciFi channel program is edited to make him look his best, too. When he misses altogether, they can make it go away before airing the show. He also occasionally tells a mark who insists the 'message' isn't relevant, 'go home and think about it and let us know when you make the connection to what the dead one meant.' IMO it's a typical blame the victim ploy, implying to the mark that JOhn's message was right but he was too stupid to understand it.

  Gullibility + heartfelt desire = $$$ for John.

  Caveat emptor.
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  Favourite Stand Up Comic

  by BugEye in

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  international of course:.

  dave allen, irish standup (sit down drinking whisky actually).

  bill cosby, love that fat albert.

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  Mommie Dark

  Lenny Bruce

  George Carlin

  Billy Connolly

  Robin Williams (when he gets together with Billy & Whoopi, it's gutbustin' time)

  Stephanie Hodge

  Jonathan Winters is my alltime comedic hero.
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  Honor among exJws

  by ticatoo in

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  hello all......some things that have happened during the past week have made me think about exjws and honor.

  we all remember 'theocratic warfare' and how it is ok to lie to those who don't deserve the truth.

  so, my question is.....are exjws as a group more dishonest than people from other religious groups?

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  Mommie Dark

  The answer to all your questions is:
  NO

  We are not a religion, club, organization or even a loose concatenation of likeminded believers. We are just individual humans, and our honesty, loyalty, sense of responsibility, all that other stuff, is as individualized as we are.

  Ex-JWs are as likely to be dishonest, cruel, disloyal (insert favorite human failing here) as ANYONE YOU MEET AT RANDOM. This is NOT a fraternity of elite enlightened evolved souls. As in any realworld neighborhood, you'll meet sinners and saints; heroes and villains; cretins, lackwits, the occasional genius; jokers& clowns; intellectuals; bighearted and hardhearted souls, and lots of Just Plain Everyday Joes & Janes: and as in the realtime world you will have to use your discernment to decide who is cheap base metal, painted to look good at the casual glance, and who is genuine gold.

  And aren't 'honor' and 'honesty' two entirely different things?

  Here, as in real life, CAVEAT EMPTOR "let the buyer beware". This is a discussion board, NOT a replacement church.
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  Headquarters of 'TBN'--vs. Brooklyn

  by LDH in

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  i was in los angeles over the weekend (weather was gorgeous, what else is new?)..

  we stayed in costa mesa at the westin south coast plaza, right off of the 405 and bristol street.. as we exited, imagine my surprise upon looking to the right hand side of the road and seeing a palatial looking building with the logo for the trinity broadcasting network diplayed!

  wow, was it disgusting!.

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  Jan Crouch's pink hair! OMG! She does this weeping thing, very effective, I've heard her tell the 'dolls to Haiti' story at least four times ( compulsive channel surfing+morbid curiosity=lotsa time logged on televangelists of all sorts...I get praying for Brother Angley to get a new hairpiece, for Pat Robertson to lose that little tremor, for Jan's eyelash to stay on her eyelid when the mascara starts runnin'...but I digress... ). That woman can cry buckets right on cue, it's a miraculous gift I just know it.

  I especially love TBN's excrementally opulent Christmas displays. Next year I hope to see a gigantic multi-tiered birthday cake for Baby Jesus in the mix. Maybe Mary Magdalene could pop out of it periodically, SURPRISE, Baby Jesus, HAPPY BIRTHDAY! All done in tasteful white lights of course, colored lights are so vulgar...

  Loving our brethren at TBN,
  Mommie Dark
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  Nourishment for the Spirit

  by Maximus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my observation is that persons who 1) heal/adjust the most rapidly from their jw experience and 2) seem to have the most joy in life are those who read, read, read, in pursuit of what i call nourishment for the spirit.

  i've really enjoy the pithy aphorisms you use here, which suggests you've distilled some wisdom from somewhere.

  i'm going to ask your help in this thread.

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  I like books that assist in paradigm shifting. Most of my recommendations are fiction and not very 'intellectually taxing' but they offer unique viewpoints, and thus expanded my horizons somehow.

  THe Dispossessed by Ursula K LeGuin: this book first showed me the elegant possibility of life without central government. She depicts a physicist who puts personal ethical responsibility and genuine conscience above politicking. It's simply a wonderful book.

  Cat's Cradle by Kurt Vonnegut
  Slaughterhouse-Five by Kurt Vonnegut

  Kurt takes on the end of the world (CC) and the firebombing of Dresden by US military in WW2 (S5). The man is a genius. Even his 'worst' books are worth reading, but he never wrote a a 'bad' book IMO.

  Animal House & 1984 by Orwell. MM-mm-mm...Big Brother is in Brooklyn...

  Towing Jehovah by Robert Morrow: another fiction that helped me view the god thingy from a whole new perspective.

  any novel by Tom Robbins will puncture icons and dissect ideologies, while giving you some of the most genuinely therapeutic bellylaughs you'll ever want. Wanna live forever? Details found in Jitterbug Perfume (but I warn you, you gotta love to dance and you gotta smell great!).

  any translation of the Tao is worth reading. Savor it like a stick of hard candy, slow and with attention to the flavor.

  I'm not going to trot out all the scholarly tomes I've read in the last ten years; those who already posted have done a wonderful job of outlining a serious reading list for those who need that. I just want to recommend that any serious 'seeker after truth' might want to begin by making a baseline of knowledge by reading various 'sacred texts' from all possible sources before studying the commentary of 'experts' on said texts. Comparing the Upanishads, the Tao, the Bible, Koran, etc can be enlightening without ever reading a word of commentary. After the comparisons, commentary may illuminate. REMEMBER: KNOWLEDGE IS POWER.
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  "Still don't believe in a "NewWorldOr...

  by sf in

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  "charles t. russell military illuminati" is what yielded this search result (for those i know who are requesting these results):.

  < http://www.svpvril.com/nwo.html.

  i guess kissinger was drunk too when he said what he said.

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  Mommie Dark

  . http://www.svpvril.com/index.htm#It's%20a

  followed the links back to this home page.

  Another crackpot, another crackpot theory.

  Adding it to the collection...
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  JW Organization On Autopilot

  by AlanF in

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  these days it's pretty clear that the jw organization is running on autopilot.

  charles taze.

  russell, joe booze rutherford, nathan knorr and freddie franz all had a certain amount of vision.

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  Mommie Dark

  A moron spewed:
  "AlanF said to Mishnah:
  "...go fuck yourself."

  But only a little earlier AlanF had said THIS of himself:
  Unlike JWs, I retain a sense of ethics."
  (he repeated the quote for emphasis, because he's a moron and probably didn't understand the instruction the first time...)

  What the cretinous Yadirf doesn't understand is, it's ALWAYS ethical to tell a blowhard cretinous moron to go fuck himself.

  So, Yadirf, why not join yer pal Mishnah in a round of self-fucking, and quit pestering people who have enough brain cells to string a coherent message?

  MD
  who also retains a sense of ethics, which has NOTHING to do with vulgar language or a lack thereof, and EVERYTHING to do with honesty
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  NEW POLL - Number of Known Victims

  by Amazing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  please, i am asking that only those who responded to my first poll about the numebr of molesters they know, to respond to this poll.

  this way i can make sense between the two polls.. please also, as you did before, avoid comments until i post the results.

  here are tow qeustions and how i answer them to kick this poll off to a start:.

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  Mommie Dark

  #1: two known victims
  #2:4 known victims
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  Average Numbers of Victims per Molester (rev)

  by Amazing in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i added a post below to janh, number 15, to address some realistic numbers.

  some have had difficulty in accepting the number of victims per pedophile i have used, i.e.

  i based this on what an attorney who prosecutes such cases against molesters told me.

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  Mommie Dark

  "For every victim stepping forward there are a good number, in fact as the attorney told me, a major number of about 90% who will not step forward. Why? Because they are ashamed and do not want to be identified. They do not want to re-live the emotional pain and suffering by facing the accused in court. They do not hear about the trial until it is too late to make a claim. Other victims just want to move on and forget what happened. Some victims, while wanting to participate, are satisfied that the molester got caught, and feel no need to join in further action."

  One big reason some folks never step forward is the pervasive blame-the-victim mentality, especially among JWs. When I finally broke the code of silence and told my family about our father, my oldest sister came forward and admitted that she had been his victim right up until she married (and that's when he started in on me...). As we compared notes, we found we had both internalized the blame for his behavior... and it never occurred to either of us to tell an elder. we KNEW we would be blamed, shamed, have to recount every detail. When an elderly 'anointed' elder molested her, she kept quiet, same reason.

  Being ignorant, it never occurred to either of us that our silence might permit them to victimize others. We thought WE were somehow attracting the attention, and redoubled efforts to be as unobtrusive and untouchable as possible. The notion that these pervs deserved punishment never entered our minds. The notion that Dad might prey on others never entered my mind. It horrified me when I found out that not only did he have a history of molesting my sister, but other relatives knew about it and kept quiet too, out of some twisted family pride, and, knowing he had transferred his attentions to me, continued to keep the silence until I outed him twenty years later. And then after I did speak out, we found that dear old Dad had molested at least two of his granddaughters, too.

  It takes more courage than I will ever have to go public and take a perv to court. I salute those who have displayed that courage. I especially salute those who have suffered at the hands of self-righteous judgmental twits who have no clue at all of what the victims went through.